17Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
On January 7, 2026, in Minneapolis, Minnesota, a woman names Renee Nicole Good hit an ICE officer and was subsequently shot. Original video posted here.
Immediately, crowds gathered with signs. How they came out so quickly? You tell me. Or, better yet, let them tell you: they get paid for it.
Worse than this, however, was Senator Roland Gutierrez (Democrat) calling it murder – how did he know? He saw the video – he’s seen all the videos. “They murdered that woman,” Gutierrez said. “And you can see it in all the videos for yourself, all of the different angles. No one was in harms way. They straight up murdered that woman.” Way to tone down the rhetoric, ey Democrats!?
More, Mayor Jacob Frey added that the officer was not hit, as he saw when watching the video “from every angle.”
On top of that, Tim Walz came out and said that he’s at war with the federal government. No judge, no jury, just execution of mob justice – Social Justice, they call it.
Rather than gathering witnesses (like this woman) before thinking about forming a verdict worthy of taking to the streets (which is what the Bible teaches to do), they condemned the officer who was struck by the SUV.
A lot of us have been here before. I grew up outside of St. Louis. I remember watching my city burn several times over because of the Leftist mob. Fortunately, being part of a mob is less popular in the winter than in the summer.
However grand their claims of “I saw the video” were, they did not see the videos that would come…
Later, this video was released from further away, which shows the officer in front of the SUV and three minutes leading up to the incident. Yet another video was shown from another angle. This shows the officer being stuck, and moved back by the SUV several feet.
Earlier today (January 9), body-cam footage of the officer stuck was released. You can watch that full video here. This video brings a lot of clarity to the whole situation. This account specifies five ways this brings clarity. Allie Beth Stuckey comments:
Her girlfriend taunts the officer, then, when he’s right in front of the car, she yells, “Drive, baby! Drive, drive!” ~ Allie Beth Stuckey
I’m sure we will find out more in the days – even hours – ahead.
The Left likes nothing more than to stage revolution and revolt. They are Communists, so why would anyone be surprised by this? The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution, because that is their Messiah. The truth is subsidiary to that goal. And all laws are either obstacles to destroy or tools to wield in bringing about revolution.
This isn’t a both sides problem. One side seems to always be willing to lie and mislead, to be swift in judgement and execution, for their own cause. As I said above, some of us have been here before. After the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the right-wing didn’t riot. They didn’t declare was against the federal government or any state government. And the reason those on the right are so strongly coming out defending this officer, who had been hit and dragged 300 feet six months ago carrying out an arrest, is not because we are wanting to subvert the system and take vengeance into our own hands. It’s because the Left does that as standard practice. So, for the sake of not having our cities burn by Communist revolutionaries and professional agitators, we try to cool the temperature by stating fact and reserving judgement.
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None of the videos you posted really proves very much. The ICE agent who shot Renee Good wasn’t hit by the car. He didn’t even drop his cell phone. That “bang” isn’t the car hitting anybody. It’s the gun shooting her in the face. I have a pretty good grip and I’ve actually made money as a photojournist, but if I got hit by a car, I doubt I could hold onto my camera without dropping it.
I’m not sure exactly what Renee Good’s wife heckling the ICE agents or some random protester telling Laura Ingraham she was “getting paid” proves either other than maybe that Good was in fact part of the protest. I’ve been to hundreds of protests. If that ICE agent was so triggered by a 140 woman heckling him that he shot into her wife’s car, he’s far too much of a snowflake to be carrying a gun. The woman telling Ingraham she “gets paid” is some random masked up woman in a crowd who could be anybody, including a right wing provocateur. I never mask up at protests or comment anonymously online. If you can sign your name to your words, your words mean nothing.
But the videos do answer one question. There are a number of right wing conspiracy theories on the Internet arguing that Rebecca Good’s not being in the car with Renee meant they were colluding in something (which is unclear to me). Rebecca clearly tried to get into the car but Renee was too distracted by the agents to unlock the door.
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Five Left-wing narratives instantly crumble with the body cam footage: 1) Renee was terrified for her life. She absolutely was NOT. She was smiling and taunting officers. Literally zero fear. 2) The officer was not hit. Clearly, he was hit HARD. 3) Renee didn’t know who the officers were. Clearly false from the new footage, they knew EXACTLY who they were. 4) Renee was peacefully trying to leave the scene. Clearly not, she slammed on the accelerator directly into the officer, even when she had nearly a full minute to leave the scene prior to him being in front of the car. 5) Renee wasn’t involved in any ICE-related activities. Instantly proven false. The wife/partner in the video clearly states they are going to harass ICE “later”. What is beyond insane to me is that the Renee’s partner screams for her “Drive! Drive!” when law enforcement commands her to exit the car.
https://x.com/mattvanswol/status/2009695108611092611?s=20
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I think part of the issue is that you’re defending state violence against Americans by immigration agents (who have no authority over native born Americans) as a “left wing issue.”
This isn’t a basketball game. You shouldn’t cheer for your “team.”
I’m not a 4000 pound SUV, but if I hit someone they’re going to drop their cell phone. This ICE agent was able to keep his cell phone in one hand and shoot Renee Good in the head three times with his other hand.
My dead grandmother hits harder than that.
I’m an American. The state works for me. I don’t work for the state. I’m going to be very grudging about giving up the rights which “nature and nature’s God” have given me, as Thomas Jefferson would put it.
The idea that the President could hire tens of thousands of badly trained mall cops who can work around giving “commands” is exactly what the American revolution was about.
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
Whether or not you approve, the “legislatures” in Minnesota are Tim Walz and Jacob Frey. Trump is deliberately sending masses of armed men into Minneapolis to undermine the social order, cause chaos, and destroy the authority of the elected officials the people of Minnesota voted for.
I’d honestly rather you worship 20 cent paperback New Testaments as an icon than the state. State worship is dangerous. It gets people killed.
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Tim Walz and Jacob Frey don’t write laws.
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True. Tim Walz and Jacob Frey don’t write laws.
But only Congress can declare war.
So why didn’t Trump go to Congress for a declaration of war before he bombed Iran or kidnapped Nicholas Maduro?
But Tim Walz and Jacob Frey are the elected representatives of the people of Minnesota and Trump is sending poorly trained government troops to Minneapolis to undermine who the people voted for.
He also put my own Congresswoman under indictment for protesting ICE. I literally have no representation in Congress because she supposedly shoved an ICE agent.
She’s a 110 pound women who’s literally half my size. I’ve met her in person.
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Tim Walz is leaving in disgrace for fraud.
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Looking at these videos more closely, especially the one where Rebecca Good is heckling the ICE agent, I think you’ve accidentally proven the case for murder even further. The ICE agents were acting, not as professionals, but as ideologically culture warriors who were provoked by Rebecca Good into violence. Rebecca Good might have been annoying but she was clearly not a threat. You don’t shoot someone’s partner because she taunts you with “go get some lunch.” You done something you hadn’t intended. You have not proven the ICE agent innocent. You have established the motive for the murder.
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My point was simple: You should not come out and condemn someone for murder on the basis of a video. That’s what you did and continue to do, and people will burn down cities and hurt others because they believe it.
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I know what I can see what my own eyes.
All I see is two woman who are of no threat to heavily armed men. One tries to heckle an ICE agent. She’s not even very good at heckling. All she says is “go get some lunch big boy.” I’m from New Jersey. We use harsher language than that in Sunday School.
Renee Good is trying to get out of her parking spot and get her car out of the area. She pulls out slowly. Even if she had hit the guy head on she wouldn’t have injured him. And she doesn’t even hit him.
George Orwell said “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” Don’t fall into that trap.
But let the case go to trial. Trump is trying to deny the state the evidence from the crime scene needed to prosecute. He wants to head off any possible state charges so he can just issue a pardon if the killer is found guilty.
That’s not only murder. It’s state sanctioned murder. I don’t care if the killer gets a defense lawyer. John Adams defended the British soldiers charged in the Boston Massacre. But you can’t just shot people in the head and call them “a fucking bitch” because you don’t like their politics.
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They told her to get out of the car. A car can be used with deadly force. The girl friend said “Drive.” The officer had a split second to react. Withhold your judgement, and don’t burn down cities.
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Here’s something to think about. You claim to be a Christian. Renee Good was from Colorado Springs. That’s one of the most Christian places in America. She graduated from Old Dominion University. You know why she went there? It’s in Norfolk Virginia. That’s a major naval base. Her husband was a vet. She was going to school was he was serving his country. Renee Good was your kind of person. You probably went to high school was dozens of girls like her. You know people like her and her wife. Do you really think any of them are going to burn down cities? You’re cheering on people like Trump, Randy Fine, and JD Vance, ruling class assholes who wouldn’t give you the time of day, for killing people you went to high school with. That’s like the political version of getting addicted to prescription opiods. You’re part of a culture that’s killing itself.
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The ICE officer was reportedly a Christian? Either a family, also. Don’t try to weaponize my Christianity against me.
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Do Christians call a woman they just shot “a fucking bitch?”
That’s not what I learned in Sunday School.
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See, you’re doing it again. You’re trying to weaponize Christianity against Christians. But since you went there…
Does a Christian destroy her Bibles, and condemn people who try and share the Gospel, as Renee did? See here:
https://x.com/goodguygenc/status/2009235558976115139?s=46
(I’m not saying this has anything to do with the incident. It doesn’t matter whether she was a Christian or not. It doesn’t matter whether the officer was a Christian or not. Justice is blind. But because you seem to think otherwise, I’ve present her poem…).
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A Bible is a book. Unlike the Quaran, which is considered the literal word of God, one of those little pocket New Testaments they give you on college campuses is just ink and dead trees.
Christians don’t worship dead trees and ink any more than they worship any other Bible.
Christians do meditate on a crisis of faith. Saint Augstine did. Dante did. Martin Luther did. That poem Renee Good wrote is one of the most sincerely “Christian” things I’ve ever seen.
If that ICE officer was a Christian, maybe he thought so. But he carried out a state execution. He was acting like a Roman soldier nailing Jesus to the cross.
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Yeah people get killed for burning Qurans. It’s a terrible thing.
Worshipping a book and not destroying it are very different. And besides, it’s more about what that represented than anything else. But as I say, this has nothing to do with the actual incident. This is just a response to your weaponization of Christianity against reality.
What on earth are you referring to by crisis of faith? And whatever it is, I’m sure it was resolved by God’s Word pointing them to Jesus. Not meditating under a tree all by their lonesome.
You see, there you go again. Carrying out a “state execution.” Those things happened in Venezuela under Maduro, and they look very different. Can’t you even admit that a jury could reasonably find him innocent of murder?
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Trump is blocking the state of Minnesota from gathering evidence and making sure it’s only tried in a federal (where the odds are it will be a bench trial and not a jury trial) court.
I’ve posted multiple images of Muhammad on my website and have never received a threatening e-mail.
Midway in our life’s journey, I went astray
from the straight road and woke to find myself
alone in a dark wood. How shall I say
what wood that was! I never saw so drear,
so rank, so arduous a wilderness!
Its very memory gives a shape to fear.
A minor poet named Dante
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A genocide is what happened in Guatemala in the 1980s. It was carried out by an evangelical Christian (Rios Montt). It was armed and funded by Ronald Reagan and Israel.
I’m not saying it definitely will happen in Venezuela, but most of those mineral resources the traitor Machedo is offering to the American ruling class cheap are on indigenous land. The indigenous overwhelmingly supported the Bolivarian Revolution. They were armed and trained by Chavez and Maduro. If they resist having their land stripped, chances are Trump will carry out airstrikes and scorched earth campaigns against them. It will be ugly and don’t say I didn’t warn you.
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“Chances are.” That’s all you’ve got? And can you not celebrate that their dictator is gone?
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With all due respect, I’m trying to make a sincere argument and you’re giving me slogans. Renee Good didn’t burn down any cities. She didn’t threaten anybody’s life. She wasn’t driving fast enough. Her girlfriend heckled a cop. Real cops don’t react violently to getting heckled. They’re trained not to. Renee Good even wrote a poem about how she could no longer enjoy life without religion. That’s the poem she won the award for.
If you’ve studied the history of the 1920s, this mass hiring of ICE agents will seem very familiar to you. Right after they outlawed alcohol the IRS hired tens of thousands of prohibition agents. They were poorly trained fanatics who wanted to beat up Catholics and immigrants. They were mostly Klan. We’re repeating that mistake and for what? Trump isn’t even deporting as many illegal immigrants as Obama did. It’s all for show. It’s security theater designed to intimidate Americans.
If you really think illegal immigrants lower wages, pass an amnesty bill and give them the right to vote and join unions. It’s not in your interest or mine to let the ruling class (and yes I used a bad communist word) have an endless supply of second class citizens as cheap labor.
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“She wasn’t driving fast enough” is the most revealing thing you could’ve said.
Everything you’re going on about has nothing to do with the incident. And as I said in another post, her poem about religion rejects the Bible as something to be destroyed, and condemns Christians for sharing the Gospel.
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Do you know in the Byzantine Empire (the most Christian state in history) they literally smashed icons of Jesus and the Virgin Mary? Why? You’re not supposed to worship icons. That’s idolatry.
One of those little pocket New Testaments they probably make with slave labor somewhere in the global south isn’t God. Treating it as a holy object is idolatry.
“Thou shalt not make of me any graven images.”
But if you read the poem more carefully you’ll see that she’s burning a Himilyan acid lamp (a new age fetish) right along with the Bible. She’s writing about a crisis of faith, not committing blasphemy
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No one brought it worship. The Bible doesn’t call anyone to worship it. It points to Jesus, so that people trust and worship God alone. It’s the Bible that convinces and guides people about what a Christian is. Discarding the Bible altogether raises major red flags about someone being a Christian.
As for the Bible being made by slave labor: that wasn’t a part of her poem. You brought that up. Also, I hate to tell you this, but if you’re using an iPhone, it’s made with help from slave labor too. That’s why I support Trump’s tariffs on China, and moving industries back to the USA, where we pay workers fairly for their labor.
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Why do conservatives worship the iPhone so much.
It’s more idolatry I guess.
Of course I don’t use an iPhone. I use Android (it’s open source).
My phone was made in South Korea (which we supposedly rescued from Communism back in the 1950s.
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I was trying to prove a point. But no matter. We’re way off track from the actual incident at this point.
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Surely you’ve seen the speech where Machado is inviting American corporations to exploit Venezuela’s mineral resources.
She doesn’t own those mineral resources. The indigenous do. She’s not only a traitor. She’s a thief.
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Do “indigenous people” own the land Americans today live on?
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There are massive deposits of Lithium on Navaho Land in the Southwest, which they absolutely do own. Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk want that land so badly they can taste it. But they can’t get their dirty paws on it. That’s why they’re looking at South America.
At least Zuckerberg’s anti-democratic measures are expressed as the decrees of a benevolent dictator. Musk exercises no such restraint. In response to the accusation that the US government organised a coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia in order for Tesla to secure lithium there, Musk tweeted: “We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it.”
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/nov/25/we-will-coup-whoever-we-want-the-unbearable-hubris-of-musk-and-the-billionaire-tech-bros
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So as long as you agree with the dictator it’s ok? Ok.
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Renee Good was protesting the dictator and his goon squad executed her for it. That’s what you’re defending.
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You can’t call it murder when it’s not only very reasonable to assume self-defense, but the only just thing to do — assume innocence. Of course I’m defending him. Mobs assume guilt and take matters into their own hands, which is what I write in my post.
Also, comparing Maduro to Trump? That’s stupid.
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How many Venezuelan juries have you sat on?
Why do you use a different standard of evidence for state executions in Venezuela than state executions under Trump?
True. Maduro is a legit 6’3″ unlike the 5’11” Trump and he still has all his hair.
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Why do you condemn Trump as a dictator but not Maduro?
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Let’s put them both in the same jail cell. Deal?
But you’re dodging the issue. You refuse to condemn the state execution of Renee Good but you accept the idea that Venezuela committed state execution just because you read it on X.
You have TWO DIFFERENT STANDARDS OF EVIDENCE
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There is nothing about the incident that comes close to a state execution.
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So you would have been OK with a foreign country removing Biden?
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Biden stole the election???
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According to Trump Biden stole the election in 2020.
Does that mean you would have been happy with the Russians or the Saudis kidnapping Biden and trying him in a foreign country?
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Did Maduro steal the election?
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You’re the one taking about iPhones. LOL. It’s like they’re your God. No wonder you have no idea what a “crisis of faith” is. You’re never doubted the Holy Steve Jobs and the American oligarchy.
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“I’m not touching you! I’m not touching you!” Is all I read you saying. Your attempts at agitation aren’t going to work.
For people who don’t see it: he’s distracting from the incident my post, and this discussion, was originally about. He brought up something completely divorced from the poem I brought up in response to his weaponization of Christianity in order to get away from the truth of the incident. It’s important to understand how Leftists want conversations to function, and to call it out when you see it. So…
“I’m not touching you! I’m not touching you!”
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I’m not weaponizing Christianity against you because you’re not speaking like a Christian. You are defending arbitrary state execution of an innocent woman. That’s the most unChristian thing I can imagine.
And I’m not making any leftist slogans. I’m sincerely trying to reach you in your conservative bubble by arguing on your own turns. You’re just repeating by rote cliches. I’m asking you to think for yourself and stop worshipping state power and money (Christians shouldn’t do that).
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No, you are using Christianity against me rather than addressing the facts of the incident.
And no, you’re not arguing on my own terms. I didn’t bring any of this up. YOU did. And you did it to draw me into your Leftist bubble. Didn’t you just say you won’t read anything on X or consider it as reliable because you see it as a conservative platform?
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I didn’t say I won’t read anything on X. I can’t read anything on X. I was banned from the platform by Ukrainian bots mass reporting me and Musk doesn’t let you read what used to be called Tweets without an account.
What I did say is that links from social media aren’t credible, especially links to private accounts filming one or two people alone in their apartment. Link a real newspaper.
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Link a video to Venezuelans (who aren’t in the regime) missing their leader.
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I think the fact that Trump left Maduro’s government in power is evidence enough. He knows the people supported Maduro. So he won’t install Machado. So essentially it was a mafia hit. He kidnapped Maduro and hopes his Vice President will be so intimidated she’ll open up the country’s oil industry to American corporations. Al Capone used to call that “education.” It’s pure mob shit.
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Maduro is facing justice in New York.
You’ve condemned a man who has not been proven guilty of doing a state sanctioned execution.
Those are not the same.
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And his government is still in power in Venezuela because Trump know the people support it.
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Actually, Rubio was very clear that they got Maduro because he was the leader, the chief villain, and that trying to grab others would mean more boots on the ground for a longer time. That’s the reasoning, according to the administration.
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The “chief villain?” What is this, a comic book?
So only an extended occupation by the American military could have taken out Maduro’s government. That speaks for itself.
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Here is Rubio on Face the Nation directly addressing this, more eloquently than apparently I can: https://youtu.be/vpPSrSCkvpY
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The Face the Nation bimbo threw him a softball and he still couldn’t answer it.
Rubio is a clown. Chris Christie proved that years ago.
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You literally just asked me the same “soft ball” question.
So you’re just going to attack the people, and not respond to anything substantive. Got it.
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And you can’t answer it either. Rubio did exactly what Chris Christie humiliated him for doing. Gave a rote, 30 second memorized speech that said nothing. He’s a clown. He’s the Fredo of the Miami Cuban mafia.
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“They’re already complaining about this one operation. Imagine the howls we would have from everybody else.” ~ Marco Rubio, the man who said something.
He’s talking about you. You are mad because they removed Maduro, and at the same time you’re mad because they didn’t do more. Which is it?
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I am calmly pointing out that Rubio didn’t answer the question, that he’s inconsistent. If Maduro stole the election leaving his government in power does nothing.
What I am mad about is Rubio’s combover or that fact that halfwit clown and the Miami Cuban mob has as much power as they do.
American foreign policy is clearly for sale to the highest bidder. We’re a banana republic and you seem just fine with it.
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Was Maduro’s regime a banana republic?
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Let me ask you a question.
Let’s say someone you really hate is President of the United States.
Say Bernie Sanders.
Better yet, say Barack Obama. Say it’s 2010. Obama is President.
The Russians come in with special forces, kidnap Obama and Biden becomes President.
How exactly would you have felt about that? Would you have cheered the Russians? Or would you have supportd Biden, however much you used to hate Obama?
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If ANY leader steals an election, steals private property, puts civilians in prison for speaking against his government, kills political opposition — I’d love if someone deposed him.
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Trump says Biden stole the 2020 election.
You would have been OK with Russian special forces kidnapping Biden and installing a new government?
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If anyone steals an election, I am happy when they are removed.
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So when are we getting rid of Netanyahu. Last time I checked the American Congress were clapping like trained seals when he came to speak.
How about Mohammed bin Salman? He killed one of his own journalists in the Turkish embassy. When are we getting rid of him?
How about Al Sisi? He staged a military coup in Egypt? Do you know how much military aid the USA gives him?
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How about you answer whether or not Maduro stole the election in Venezuela.
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It’s none of my business who’s President of Venezuela or who they sell their oil to.
I’m asking you why there’s a double standard. You have a murderous genocidal regime in Israel. You have a totalitarian dictatorship in Saudi Arabia. You have a military dictator in Egypt. And all three of them have the support of the USA.
Maduro at his worst is nothing compared to Muhammad Bin Salman, Sisi or Netanyahu.
Anybody in Venezuala who welcomes a foreign kidnapping of his own president is suspect to me, just as you’re suspect for supporting the idea that Biden should have been removed by a foreign government.
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You said Biden stole the election. Don’t project that idea onto me.
All I’m trying to say is that I’m glad the Maduro regime took a hit in that their dictator was removed. I think not having a dictator is a plus for Venezuelans. You seem to think otherwise.
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I didn’t say it. Donald Trump did.
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I didn’t say it.
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You are correct. Donald Trump is a liar. So why believe him when he defends a state execution of an innocent woman?
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Did Maduro steal the election?
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The 2024 election was suspicious. But you said yourself it began 26 years ago when Chavez became President and he certainly didn’t steal the election. Didn’t matter. Bush still tried to organize a coup against him.
Now answer my question. Is Saudi Arabia or Egypt a democratic government? Why the double standard? The US gives both billions in military aid.
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My post was about Maduro and Venezuela. I feel no need to comment on other countries which have situation very different than that of Venezuela.
To the real issue:
Not even the EU recognized the legitimacy of Maduro’s government. Biden said that his regime was illegitimate. They didn’t say “suspicious,” they said illegitimate. It wasn’t a democratic election. Everyone agreed about this.
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Oh go ahead. Elon Musk doesn’t need to give you permission. You’re an adult. You can have an opinion before you read it on X.
I don’t take my opinions from politicians. I make up my own mind.
And I decided long ago that when the United States uses the excuse of “democracy” to justify removing a foreign leader from power, it’s never about “democracy.” If it were they’d apply it with consistancy. They’d use the same standards for Egypt and Saudi Arabia they use for Venezuela.
This is all about rich people wanting to get their hands on Venezuela’s oil.
And guess what, those same rich people you’re defending wouldn’t let you shovel their snow.
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The Venezuelan people weren’t getting money from their oil. They were stuck as a third world country. And they have all the potential of being great again. Isn’t it better to try something new instead of sticking with the status quo of an unelected socialist dictator?
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You are arguing that the United States government has the right to remove people in foreign countries who haven’t been democratically elected.
I’m asking why you don’t apply this same standard to Saudi Arabia or Egypt.
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You haven’t said it applies to Maduro yet. You aren’t even as far as I am! And you’re demanding I go further? Nope.
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I don’t think the United States government should play “world policeman” and remove foreign leaders from power. So no. I don’t think Trump should have removed Maduro.
Trump accused Biden of stealing the 2020 election. I wouldn’t have wanted to see a foreign government remove him.
Bush DID steal the 2000 election. I wouldn’t have wanted to see a foreign government take him out.
So I’m asking why he got rid of Maduro (but not his government) and yet not only leaves unelected dictators like Sisi and Muhammad Bin Salman in power, but gives them billions in military aid.
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Maduro was head of a criminal organization funneling cocaine into the United States. Venezuela under socialists stole American oil infrastructure. Venezuelans are happy that at least Maduro is gone. And you still haven’t shown me anything from Venezuelans being upset that Maduro is gone. All I see are Venezuelans thanking Trump and the USA.
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Nobody thinks that. Cocaine doesn’t even come from Venezuela.
How did our oil get into their country? LOL.
Or so you’ve read on X.
Because they’re all happy the USA is going to come in and steal their oil? Do you really believe Venezuela is that much of a country of traitors? Or are these only the people you read on X (who are probably paid trolls in the Punjab anyway).
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“When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who holds back his lips has insight.”
Proverbs 10:19 LSB
It’s incredibly hard to try and get you to engage with anything substantive.
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Venezuela has never been a supplier of cocaine. Just because you read it on X doesn’t make it true. You are lying to defend people who don’t give a fuck you.
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Language, sheesh.
Also, I don’t think you care about me at all.
Also, read this:
“Venezuela remains a major transit country for cocaine shipments via aerial, terrestrial, and maritime routes. Most shipments originate in Colombia and transit through Venezuela and are then trafficked north through Central America or the Caribbean islands – eventually ending up in the United States – or southeast to Brazil, Guyana, or Suriname, either for consumption in South America or transit to Europe. In March 2020, the United States estimated that between 200 and 250 metric tons (MT) of cocaine were trafficked through Venezuela annually, representing roughly 10 to 13 percent of estimated global production. Furthermore, various sources have indicated that Maduro-aligned officials lead drug trafficking operations in addition to taking bribes from drug cartels.
UNODC’s 2023 Global Report on Cocaine identified Venezuela as a major point of departure for illicit drug flights transporting cocaine from South America toward Mexico. In May 2022, researchers reported evidence of coca cultivation and cocaine processing in Zulia and Apure states by Colombian guerilla groups, and an August 2023 research report cited evidence of coca cultivation in Amazonas state. In August 2023, news media reported that local indigenous people confirmed the presence of drug laboratories and clandestine airstrips in Amazonas state.
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Despite Maduro’s claimed efforts in countering drug trafficking, the country’s role in the global supply chain of illicit drugs has expanded from being a drug transit zone to becoming a cocaine-producing nation. Maduro representatives failed to meaningfully prosecute suspected drug traffickers, and Venezuela’s use as a transit and origin point for illegal drugs has continued to grow.”
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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/03/world/americas/venezuela-drug-trade.html?unlocked_article_code=1.DVA.Hp8k.asW4CP-uAI46&smid=url-share
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Read the actual reports:
“Despite Maduro’s claimed efforts in countering drug trafficking, the country’s role in the global supply chain of illicit drugs has expanded from being a drug transit zone to becoming a cocaine-producing nation. Maduro representatives failed to meaningfully prosecute suspected drug traffickers, and Venezuela’s use as a transit and origin point for illegal drugs has continued to grow.”
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/4/is-venezuela-the-big-cocaine-menace-trump-claims-it-to-be
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I cannot see the classified assessment as there is no link to it. However I have read what I’ve posted elsewhere in response to you, which I now repost here:
“Venezuela remains a major transit country for cocaine shipments via aerial, terrestrial, and maritime routes. Most shipments originate in Colombia and transit through Venezuela and are then trafficked north through Central America or the Caribbean islands – eventually ending up in the United States – or southeast to Brazil, Guyana, or Suriname, either for consumption in South America or transit to Europe. In March 2020, the United States estimated that between 200 and 250 metric tons (MT) of cocaine were trafficked through Venezuela annually, representing roughly 10 to 13 percent of estimated global production. Furthermore, various sources have indicated that Maduro-aligned officials lead drug trafficking operations in addition to taking bribes from drug cartels.
UNODC’s 2023 Global Report on Cocaine identified Venezuela as a major point of departure for illicit drug flights transporting cocaine from South America toward Mexico. In May 2022, researchers reported evidence of coca cultivation and cocaine processing in Zulia and Apure states by Colombian guerilla groups, and an August 2023 research report cited evidence of coca cultivation in Amazonas state. In August 2023, news media reported that local indigenous people confirmed the presence of drug laboratories and clandestine airstrips in Amazonas state.”
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From a far right wing source. Even they say Trump’s claims are bullshit.
For one, Venezuela likely has nothing to do with smuggling fentanyl into the US. The Drug Enforcement Administration’s (DEA) annual National Drug Threat Assessment (NDTA)—its definitive statement on drug sources and trafficking routes—makes the picture clear: fentanyl is produced overwhelmingly in Mexico, using precursor chemicals that come primarily from China and India.
Across every edition of the NDTA, Venezuela never appears as a fentanyl source or transit country. In other words, even the federal government’s own drug-intelligence apparatus does not link Venezuela to the US fentanyl supply.
The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) World Drug Report conveys the same message. Its global sourcing maps and trafficking analyses reveal no fentanyl production in Venezuela, no identified fentanyl-trafficking networks based there, and no South American involvement in the synthetic-opioid supply chain. Instead, the pattern remains consistent year after year: precursors originating in Asia (e.g., China, India, Myanmar), production in Mexico, and distribution into the United States, with Venezuela completely absent from the scene.
https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-venezuela-gambit-incoherent-encore-failed-drug-war
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Did I mention fentanyl? No. Cocaine. Don’t try to make a straw-man out of your opponents. It makes you look really bad.
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Venezuela is not a source of cocaine.
Even last year the DEA doesn’t mention is.
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/venezuela-drugs-us-trump-fact-check-b2896019.html
Venezuela is not a major transit hub for cocaine
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I have cited an official government source many times over in this conversation which says otherwise.
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That article quotes from the same “official” source.
Personally I don’t think the word “official” makes something credible.
Question your government.
But that “official” source says Venezuela is not a source of fentynal and only a minor transit hub of cocaine to the United States.
You’re proof texting, not reading.
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10 to 13 percent of global cocaine produced goes through Venezuela according to that report. And you say that’s “minor?”
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“We” aren’t talking about Venezuela. The algorithm on X told you that was the issue you should be focued on with tunnel vision and ignore the larger context.
We’re about the same age so both of us can remember what life was like before social media. I think you should try to see the larger picture and call the government out for its inconsistencies.
Even the official report you cited says only 10 percent. The majority comes from Bolivia, Ecuador and Mexico. The NATO puppet state in Kosovo provides most of the dealers because NATO destroyed the economy.
But you want to limit the discuss to 10% of the reality.
You know what’s even more of a problem? Prescription opiates made in the USA by the Sacklers. But they give a lot of money to Trump and Israel so we can’t touch them.
Think about all of that whenever X tells you “don’t look over there. Only look here where I’m tellng you to.”
Because next month it will be a totally new place and when I remind you of how Venezuela went south you’ll be saying “but we’re not talking about Venezuela. Elon wants us only to talk about Iran.”
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Stopping 10% is a big deal.
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I know this mode you’re shifting into.
My MAGA relatives do it constantly. They say “uh oh the leftist is trying to trick us so we’d better turn off our brains and just repeat slogans and vague generalities.”
It means you don’t trust your ability to think criticially. You shut down your brain and go to your happy place, Trump worship.
First of all, nobody’s stopped 10% of anything. They’ve kidnapped the head of state and left all of the biggest drug traffickers in power.
They’ve just “whacked” one guy and left the family in place. Typical mafia behavior. They’re basically saying “you can keep your 10%. We just want a taste of the money.”
Get back to me when they actually stop that 10% as effectively as they’ve stopped your brain from working.
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Rubio directly and reasonably contradicted this in a video I’ve already cited in this back and forth.
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Yes. You’ve repeated the same vague generalities Rubio did, over and over again.
You’ve made an unsupported statement, that in less than a week “10% of the drug traffic to the United States has been cut off.” You’ve made no attempt to defend it or even argue for it.
You’ve done two things.
1.) The appeal to authority fallacy. Repetively posting Marco Rubio saying the same vague generalities.
2.) Cultlike repetition of slogans in response to someone you perceive as a “leftist.” The outsider is here so you go into zombielike happy made like you’re giving out flowers at the airport.
Engage your brain once in awhile. You might occasionally lose an argument but you might also learn something. Don’t just repeat mantra like a robot.
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No, I’ve cited sources.
People give out flowers at the airport? What?
I can’t wait to see even less drugs entering the USA! Apparently you don’t agree.
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Read the actual reports:
Click to access 2025-International-Narcotics-Control-Strategy-Volume-1-Accessible.pdf
Guess who’s actually trafficing that cocaine.
And guess where it’s coming from, Kosovo.
Remember in 1999 when the USA conducted a “regime change” operation against Serbia to give Kosovo to the Kosovar Albanians?
This is why yould be skeptical of your government.
Even the report you posted admitted that most of the cocaine is coming from Bolivia and Educador (where the US supports the government because they gave up Julian Assange).
So when does the regime change in Kosovo and Ecuador begin?
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I think it’s a good thing to stop the flow of cocaine into the country in what ways we can.
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I’ve noticed that when you have non answer you retreat into vague generalities.
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No, I cut through to the real issue. We’re not talking about the whole world, we are talking about Venezuela. 10 percent of the estimated total cocaine produced is trafficked through Venezuela. I think that ending is a good thing.
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